mayhemt
06-24 08:47 PM
Actually there are 2 sides to these questions.. (Of course I am also one of the EB3 aspirants.)
1. What is America losing because of our prolonged wait for Green Cards?
America would be losing on intellectual grounds. Most of the people waiting in the never-ending GC queue are ready to give up their spot, if they get good opportunities elsewhere, eg: UK, Canada, Australia, However it is not going to put a dent overall intellectual pool.
America would be gaining in terms of revenue & employment creation:
Filing fees, Attorney fees are the visible ones. The non-tangible ones being social security fund & medicare fund, Income tax, employer's insurance premiums. Most likely, the silent immigrant going back to his home country or another country is not going to ask for social security benefits/Medicare. Social Security in particular which is in desperate need of repairs greatly appreciates the immigrant going back.
The wait creates lot of employment in terms of immigration personnel, attorneys, USCIS systems' maintenance. Consider this: A credit card processing bank does more checks on an individual/card while processing an authorization. What if the whole immigration system has been automated (instead of today's almost fully paper-based immigration processing)? Even with automated systems in place (eg PIMS), there are massive delays. But the complete reform would hit a huge employment soft spot. How much would it take to hook up a terminal in an overseas consulate, thru which the consulate officer can check the petition validity then & there itself, accessing it from a Centralized database? Heck they should learn it from Yahoo or Google, to access systems from anywhere in the world.
2. How people who have green cards are contributing to the country as a whole ?
By contributing to income tax. A person with green card is more likely to get more opportunities than a person on H1. H1 holder is constantly nagged with endless paperwork, dependencies, expiration dates. A green card holder can switch to different companies or start his/her own business, thereby earning for himself & paying more on income tax & possible his/her business tax.
A permanent resident has already gone thru ton of checks/regulations eg: Criminal checks, medical tests. If the same tests were put thru for Americans, how many are really going to pass? Green card holders (or even H1 worker) stick to all rules, regulations, pay their bills without being a threat to American society.
On the other hand, green card holders/H1s need not sign up for defense service selection (above the age of 24). Lost American jobs is whole different ball game.
3. What if the whole green card process takes less than 3 years ?
If it takes less than 3yrs, it will certainly make lot of IVians & happy, including me. But we are not in Utopian world.
On the other hand, there will be huge influx of immigrant applications. Slowly immigration population would become large chunk in administrative areas, they may even reach Washington.
1. What is America losing because of our prolonged wait for Green Cards?
America would be losing on intellectual grounds. Most of the people waiting in the never-ending GC queue are ready to give up their spot, if they get good opportunities elsewhere, eg: UK, Canada, Australia, However it is not going to put a dent overall intellectual pool.
America would be gaining in terms of revenue & employment creation:
Filing fees, Attorney fees are the visible ones. The non-tangible ones being social security fund & medicare fund, Income tax, employer's insurance premiums. Most likely, the silent immigrant going back to his home country or another country is not going to ask for social security benefits/Medicare. Social Security in particular which is in desperate need of repairs greatly appreciates the immigrant going back.
The wait creates lot of employment in terms of immigration personnel, attorneys, USCIS systems' maintenance. Consider this: A credit card processing bank does more checks on an individual/card while processing an authorization. What if the whole immigration system has been automated (instead of today's almost fully paper-based immigration processing)? Even with automated systems in place (eg PIMS), there are massive delays. But the complete reform would hit a huge employment soft spot. How much would it take to hook up a terminal in an overseas consulate, thru which the consulate officer can check the petition validity then & there itself, accessing it from a Centralized database? Heck they should learn it from Yahoo or Google, to access systems from anywhere in the world.
2. How people who have green cards are contributing to the country as a whole ?
By contributing to income tax. A person with green card is more likely to get more opportunities than a person on H1. H1 holder is constantly nagged with endless paperwork, dependencies, expiration dates. A green card holder can switch to different companies or start his/her own business, thereby earning for himself & paying more on income tax & possible his/her business tax.
A permanent resident has already gone thru ton of checks/regulations eg: Criminal checks, medical tests. If the same tests were put thru for Americans, how many are really going to pass? Green card holders (or even H1 worker) stick to all rules, regulations, pay their bills without being a threat to American society.
On the other hand, green card holders/H1s need not sign up for defense service selection (above the age of 24). Lost American jobs is whole different ball game.
3. What if the whole green card process takes less than 3 years ?
If it takes less than 3yrs, it will certainly make lot of IVians & happy, including me. But we are not in Utopian world.
On the other hand, there will be huge influx of immigrant applications. Slowly immigration population would become large chunk in administrative areas, they may even reach Washington.
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HRPRO
02-23 04:31 PM
Well, I had a Infopass last week to check on a Soft LUD on my I-140, I heard slightly different story, they did not say adjudicating the EB application, but Process the EB application, which I guess what they were saying is pre-adjudicating the cases, in the last few weeks with lot of cases being transferred (both EB2/EB3) to different offices, pre-adjudicating the cases makes sense....but hey, we are talking about USCIS here, we never know, whatever you heard could be true too......
One piece of information that made me happy reading your comment was "a directive from the DHS/USCIS that they want to separate the legal stuff from the illegal stuff", this is good news.....but wondering what does legal/illegal mean to USCIS anyway......and how does it help us from retrogression point of view??
What is LUD
One piece of information that made me happy reading your comment was "a directive from the DHS/USCIS that they want to separate the legal stuff from the illegal stuff", this is good news.....but wondering what does legal/illegal mean to USCIS anyway......and how does it help us from retrogression point of view??
What is LUD
instantinstinct
09-11 11:13 PM
This might be just a way from DOS to USCIS to say bring their house in order... do not advance dates until you know the what the accurate demand is.....
just my thoughts...
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Item E of the May 2008 Visa Bulletin (number 118, volume VIII) indicated that many Employment cut-off dates had been advancing very rapidly, based on indications that the Citizenship and Immigration Services (CIS) would need to review a significantly larger pool of applicants than there were numbers available in order to maximize number use under the FY-2008 annual limits. That item also indicated that if the CIS projections proved to be incorrect, it would be necessary to adjust the cut-off dates during the final quarter of FY-2008. The CIS estimates have proven to be very high resulting in: 1) the �unavailability� of all Employment Third preference categories beginning in July, 2) the �unavailability� of numbers for China and India Employment Second preference adjustment of status cases during September, and 3) the establishment of many October Employment cut-off dates which are earlier than those which applied during FY-2008.
Little if any forward movement of the cut-off dates in most Employment categories is likely until the extent of the CIS backlog of old priority dates can be determined.
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just my thoughts...
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Item E of the May 2008 Visa Bulletin (number 118, volume VIII) indicated that many Employment cut-off dates had been advancing very rapidly, based on indications that the Citizenship and Immigration Services (CIS) would need to review a significantly larger pool of applicants than there were numbers available in order to maximize number use under the FY-2008 annual limits. That item also indicated that if the CIS projections proved to be incorrect, it would be necessary to adjust the cut-off dates during the final quarter of FY-2008. The CIS estimates have proven to be very high resulting in: 1) the �unavailability� of all Employment Third preference categories beginning in July, 2) the �unavailability� of numbers for China and India Employment Second preference adjustment of status cases during September, and 3) the establishment of many October Employment cut-off dates which are earlier than those which applied during FY-2008.
Little if any forward movement of the cut-off dates in most Employment categories is likely until the extent of the CIS backlog of old priority dates can be determined.
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maddipati1
11-21 04:00 PM
But.. when AOS(485) is denied, won't the underlying 140 and for that matter labor is also denied?
I think you are wrong ( I just think)
H1b and AOS are two differnt things and are not coupled. A yearly h1b extension beyond 6 years is given if you have a Labor pending for more than an year or pending 140 more than one year and a 3 year h1b extension is granted if you have an approved 140.
So the basis of getting a h1b extension or transfer is 140 and not AOS. One may not have even applied for AOS but can get h1 extensions as long as the above conditions are satisfied.
This is based on what I know. Thats why Attorneys prefer h1b compared to EAd because h1b essentially gives time for you to change jobs/apply for new GC petition in case existing petition has tons of issues etc...
I think you are wrong ( I just think)
H1b and AOS are two differnt things and are not coupled. A yearly h1b extension beyond 6 years is given if you have a Labor pending for more than an year or pending 140 more than one year and a 3 year h1b extension is granted if you have an approved 140.
So the basis of getting a h1b extension or transfer is 140 and not AOS. One may not have even applied for AOS but can get h1 extensions as long as the above conditions are satisfied.
This is based on what I know. Thats why Attorneys prefer h1b compared to EAd because h1b essentially gives time for you to change jobs/apply for new GC petition in case existing petition has tons of issues etc...
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Kodi
05-08 03:16 PM
I'm new to all this. What is the 45 day letter?
gbof
03-01 09:15 PM
bump...so united nations may post
Chi_shark
One of my co-worker had a info-pass this friday and the IO told him similar comments to the one which you heard....not sure what to infer out of these comments......
My IV friends:
Begining April we should see significant movement and EB2 should see many approvals.:D I am not vdlRAO but I expect my approval by Aug/Sept this year-:D:D:D-: a wishful thinking. Say: Amen !!!
Chi_shark
One of my co-worker had a info-pass this friday and the IO told him similar comments to the one which you heard....not sure what to infer out of these comments......
My IV friends:
Begining April we should see significant movement and EB2 should see many approvals.:D I am not vdlRAO but I expect my approval by Aug/Sept this year-:D:D:D-: a wishful thinking. Say: Amen !!!
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tikka
07-18 04:03 PM
I just upgraded my monthly contribution too!
thank you!
thank you!
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chisinau
07-23 02:46 AM
My attorney told me that there is a chanse that they will be able to approve my DS230 this time, before the retro will hit us again in August. Hope his data is correct. Usually they need 5 - 8 weeks for DS230. And as far as I understand the process, they work with DS230 only if your PD is current, so until the 17-th of August we might hear some good news about DS230. But this is the only positive outcome of the July VB for us.
If the October VB shows "current" for our PD we would have our appointment in consulate. Othervise, no GC in near future.
From my point of view, the chanses to have our interview in october or november are slim. There is a lot of applicants in EB3 before us + I485 recent August approvals. Where they will find visas for AOS applicants? They have already waisted all visa numbers for 2007, but still alowing to file I485... About I485 I am not sure, correct me if I am wrong. Anyway, I believe that there will be severe retrogression begining from the next Fiscal Year.
The only hope we have - is "bridge legislation" for schedule A. Without it even persons on advanced stages of CP will have to wait months or even years for the interview:::((((
P.S.
Just curious.:::))) Where are you from, peyton sawyer? Where in the US are you going to live? I am going to High Point, NC.
If the October VB shows "current" for our PD we would have our appointment in consulate. Othervise, no GC in near future.
From my point of view, the chanses to have our interview in october or november are slim. There is a lot of applicants in EB3 before us + I485 recent August approvals. Where they will find visas for AOS applicants? They have already waisted all visa numbers for 2007, but still alowing to file I485... About I485 I am not sure, correct me if I am wrong. Anyway, I believe that there will be severe retrogression begining from the next Fiscal Year.
The only hope we have - is "bridge legislation" for schedule A. Without it even persons on advanced stages of CP will have to wait months or even years for the interview:::((((
P.S.
Just curious.:::))) Where are you from, peyton sawyer? Where in the US are you going to live? I am going to High Point, NC.
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lelica32
09-26 05:17 PM
I'v send a letter today. Let see if the Ombudsman will send me a answer.
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anilsal
07-28 11:03 PM
There are many folks who have their GC process going on since 2001, 2002 etc. This BEC thing was a bane for many people and many of them squeezed past it and got approvals (2004 EB3 etc).
So nothing is fair in the immigration process. Suck the frustration and start involving yourself in IV activities. Start by becoming a contributing member (and updating your signature with it). If you do not have the courage to do it, then do not start new threads.
So nothing is fair in the immigration process. Suck the frustration and start involving yourself in IV activities. Start by becoming a contributing member (and updating your signature with it). If you do not have the courage to do it, then do not start new threads.
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kumar4j2ee
09-17 02:02 PM
Order Details - Sep 17, 2007 1:33 PM EDT
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nonimmi
08-13 03:56 PM
I believe some top-level IV core members are EB3-I with PD 2003-04. So it is hard to believe that they are not worried watching "U" month after month and don't want to do anything about it. But as IV-Core they can not just do something for EB3-I. We need to find a way to fix this issue without creating another subgroup for EB3-I and take advantage of IV movement.
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Blessing&Lifeisbeautiful
08-13 04:21 PM
With the current situation, I think it may take 2 to 3 months...
Probable longer for an RFE. Receipt notices are taking 6 weeks+. When do you think EAD will come out. It used to be 60-90 days. With quite a few EADs out in less than 60 days.
Any ideas
Probable longer for an RFE. Receipt notices are taking 6 weeks+. When do you think EAD will come out. It used to be 60-90 days. With quite a few EADs out in less than 60 days.
Any ideas
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bhatt
09-10 12:19 PM
One thing for sure USCIS do likes April fools day a lot as this the date they usually pick when the retrogress. This proves that a fool named DOS in love with April fools day.:)
USCIS and DOS love to pick APRIL FOOLS DAY as cut off date especially for India :) is it coincident or !:eek:
Are they telling that we have FOOLED you, immigrants again and again.
USCIS and DOS love to pick APRIL FOOLS DAY as cut off date especially for India :) is it coincident or !:eek:
Are they telling that we have FOOLED you, immigrants again and again.
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indio0617
01-11 02:25 PM
1 point we should make to the lawmakers is to make an administraive change to give 3 years extensions and abolish 1 year extensions. As 1 year extensions are not suffecient a very solid case can be presented for that case.
1) Driver license, lit of state doesn't give DLs if you have less than 1 year left on Visa
2) H1B Extension is taking 4-6 months
3) No Visa stamping in U.S.
The problem are just too many we need a proper channel to raise our voice to them
Also we need to ask for some accountability and transparency in the Backlog processing. All of us (victims) with LCs in the backlog centers have been reduced to foolish gamblers trying to figure out what is happening with our applications.
1) Driver license, lit of state doesn't give DLs if you have less than 1 year left on Visa
2) H1B Extension is taking 4-6 months
3) No Visa stamping in U.S.
The problem are just too many we need a proper channel to raise our voice to them
Also we need to ask for some accountability and transparency in the Backlog processing. All of us (victims) with LCs in the backlog centers have been reduced to foolish gamblers trying to figure out what is happening with our applications.
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raysaikat
01-07 12:42 AM
I agree with you. It is important to know if the US data excluded international students or not. You can find the papers here:
http://www.soc.duke.edu/GlobalEngineering/papers.html
The relevant one seems to be the following:
http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=991327#PaperDownload
This one is probably more relevant:
http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1015843#PaperDownload
Basically go through all the papers to get the complete picture of his position.
http://www.soc.duke.edu/GlobalEngineering/papers.html
The relevant one seems to be the following:
http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=991327#PaperDownload
This one is probably more relevant:
http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1015843#PaperDownload
Basically go through all the papers to get the complete picture of his position.
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arnab221
06-10 01:09 PM
The best way is this .
1) Apply labor and I140 .
2) Once I-140 is approved have an understanding with the companyeturn to ( attorney ) that they will not stip your GC processing .
3) Return to Booming India and have fun and make money . Raise kids . Change jobs .
4) Hope that the PD will be current by the time you are 60 and ready to retire .Get your GC stamped in India by 2040 . :D
5) Retire in the USA in instead of India . :D
Advantages
**********
1) Advantage to change jobs and make more money , and not being stuck with a single employer for decades , and be exploited .( exploited does not apply to everyone !!! )
2) Give kids the Indian upbringing .
3) Enjoy with your family , friends and relatives
4) Come and back and retire in USA after retirement .
1) Apply labor and I140 .
2) Once I-140 is approved have an understanding with the companyeturn to ( attorney ) that they will not stip your GC processing .
3) Return to Booming India and have fun and make money . Raise kids . Change jobs .
4) Hope that the PD will be current by the time you are 60 and ready to retire .Get your GC stamped in India by 2040 . :D
5) Retire in the USA in instead of India . :D
Advantages
**********
1) Advantage to change jobs and make more money , and not being stuck with a single employer for decades , and be exploited .( exploited does not apply to everyone !!! )
2) Give kids the Indian upbringing .
3) Enjoy with your family , friends and relatives
4) Come and back and retire in USA after retirement .
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sunny1000
07-06 06:24 PM
And how does it not apply to AOS.
For Consular processing people have to plan trips and get medical and all that.
Why doesnt the same analogy apply to AOS. - Please explain...:confused:
The difference is that AOS is handled by USCIS and the CP is done by DOS. It is the USCIS which ran out of the 60000 visas (supposedly) before July 1st even though DOS opened those numbers up for the entire July.
Now, DOS is saying to USCIS " you guys used your quota even before the rush started and so, we won't give you any more visa numbers but, we will continue to honor our quota via CP which we accounted for July". Just my interpretation. Don't shoot the messenger ;)
For Consular processing people have to plan trips and get medical and all that.
Why doesnt the same analogy apply to AOS. - Please explain...:confused:
The difference is that AOS is handled by USCIS and the CP is done by DOS. It is the USCIS which ran out of the 60000 visas (supposedly) before July 1st even though DOS opened those numbers up for the entire July.
Now, DOS is saying to USCIS " you guys used your quota even before the rush started and so, we won't give you any more visa numbers but, we will continue to honor our quota via CP which we accounted for July". Just my interpretation. Don't shoot the messenger ;)
newuser
09-16 03:29 PM
^^^^
browncow
07-05 06:27 PM
I am very intrigued by this thread and I would love to see a change in status quo too. However, I am missing one very important piece of information....Who are the proposed candidates and what is their agenda??
Mbawa, please don't take this as criticism but how exactly would a change in the IV core improve the current status quo? If you have any ideas, what has stopped you from using IV as a platform and taking a lead?
Again, I would love to see things improving for the EB folks but I really missing the point on how this suggestion would get us there. I have great respect for the IV core as I know it and personally I will never be able to do even 10% of the job they have done. SO if there are folks who can do better than the present core, I would love to hear their ideas and contribute to the cause.
If this is just one of the several threads that are started with no real effort or thought put in to come up with an actual and feasible solution, then this is doing more harm than good. Again I am really open to listening like a lot other silent/passive members.
Cheers.
This is not a transparent organisation, we do not know who the president or the exec committee of this organisation is. Every now and then, we hear about stating the facts in our profile before posting questions.
But we know very little about the exec committee, the 'About us' has the agenda that IV is fightin for, nothing at all about the people behind it.
Who do i thank for such a nice organisation? I have no idea.
coming to the nomination for the exec commitee, there are lots of self motivated people around here, motivation can come from people languishing with unjust RFEs, name check limbos, 10 year old petitions, members who know they can add to the organisation, and the core, they would know people who they think are capable of carrying the torch on with equal or more zest.
Most of the time, leaders of of non-profits have to be pushed to assume their roles, rather then they coming forward to lead.
Mbawa, please don't take this as criticism but how exactly would a change in the IV core improve the current status quo? If you have any ideas, what has stopped you from using IV as a platform and taking a lead?
Again, I would love to see things improving for the EB folks but I really missing the point on how this suggestion would get us there. I have great respect for the IV core as I know it and personally I will never be able to do even 10% of the job they have done. SO if there are folks who can do better than the present core, I would love to hear their ideas and contribute to the cause.
If this is just one of the several threads that are started with no real effort or thought put in to come up with an actual and feasible solution, then this is doing more harm than good. Again I am really open to listening like a lot other silent/passive members.
Cheers.
This is not a transparent organisation, we do not know who the president or the exec committee of this organisation is. Every now and then, we hear about stating the facts in our profile before posting questions.
But we know very little about the exec committee, the 'About us' has the agenda that IV is fightin for, nothing at all about the people behind it.
Who do i thank for such a nice organisation? I have no idea.
coming to the nomination for the exec commitee, there are lots of self motivated people around here, motivation can come from people languishing with unjust RFEs, name check limbos, 10 year old petitions, members who know they can add to the organisation, and the core, they would know people who they think are capable of carrying the torch on with equal or more zest.
Most of the time, leaders of of non-profits have to be pushed to assume their roles, rather then they coming forward to lead.
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